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Rick Rubin, the Producer Who Says He Knows Nothing About Music, Heads to the Rock Hall

Penelope H. Fritz
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Rick Rubin
BornMarch 10, 1963
Lido Beach
OccupationRecord Producer
AwardsGrammy Award for Album of the Year · Grammy Award for Producer of the Year, Non-Classical

Rick Rubin has spent four decades as the producer artists call when they want to sound like themselves again, and he describes his own qualifications in the bluntest terms available. He told 60 Minutes he has no technical ability and knows nothing about music; what he has is a decisive sense of what he likes. This year that claim has been tested in public. He produced a new Strokes album, directed an eight-hour HBO conversation with Jay-Z, and in November he enters the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The old question follows him into every room: what exactly does the man in the bare feet do?

The answer starts on Long Island. Frederick Jay Rubin came into the world in Long Beach, New York, on March 10, 1963, the son of Linda Rubin and Michael Rubin, a shoe wholesaler, and grew up in Lido Beach. He began meditating at 14, a habit he never dropped. In high school he formed a punk band, the Pricks, which got itself thrown off the stage at CBGB after two songs, in a brawl his friends had been told to start. His next band, Hose, gave him the first record on a label he was inventing in his room: a single in a plain brown paper bag.

That label was Def Jam. Rubin, a film student at New York University, fell in with the Bronx DJ Jazzy Jay, made “It’s Yours” with the rapper T La Rock, and then partnered with the promoter Russell Simmons. Def Jam was formally set up out of his dorm in 1984, and its first proper release, LL Cool J’s “I Need a Beat,” sounded like nothing else on the radio: a drum machine, a voice, almost nothing in between. The method scaled. He steered the Beastie Boys from hardcore toward rap and produced Licensed to Ill; he worked on Run-DMC’s Raising Hell, which carried their remake of Aerosmith’s “Walk This Way” with Steven Tyler and Joe Perry onto MTV and onto rock radio at once. The same year he produced Slayer’s Reign in Blood.

A falling-out with Lyor Cohen ended the partnership with Simmons in 1988. Rubin moved to Los Angeles, launched Def American and signed metal bands and the comedian Andrew Dice Clay. When “def” made it into the dictionary in 1993, he held a funeral for the word, with a casket and a eulogy by Al Sharpton, and renamed the label American Recordings. Its first major album became the defining project of his career. Johnny Cash, by then out of favour with country radio, recorded American Recordings largely alone with an acoustic guitar in Rubin’s living room in 1994. Five more albums followed, the last two released after Cash’s death. On American IV: The Man Comes Around Rubin suggested a cover of Nine Inch Nails’ “Hurt,” and the song became the way a generation first heard Johnny Cash.

In the same years he gave the Red Hot Chili Peppers the sound that made them a stadium band. Blood Sugar Sex Magik, cut in a rented Laurel Canyon mansion in 1991, began a partnership that ran through Californication, Stadium Arcadium and two albums in 2022. He produced Tom Petty’s Wildflowers, Jay-Z’s “99 Problems” (and appeared in its video), Metallica’s Death Magnetic and Black Sabbath’s 13, and was brought in to strip back Kanye West’s Yeezus in the weeks before its release. From 2007 to 2012 he co-ran Columbia Records. The Grammys followed the albums: Album of the Year for the Dixie Chicks’ Taking the Long Way and for Adele’s 21, and Producer of the Year twice.

The reputation has always had a counter-file. For more than two decades listeners have named Rubin among the chief offenders of the loudness war: Californication was mastered so hot that its digital clipping became a cause among fans, and many Metallica listeners preferred the Death Magnetic mix prepared for Guitar Hero to the one in the shops. Slipknot’s Corey Taylor said Rubin turned up only a handful of times during the recording of Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses), later regretted some of his words, then repeated the core complaint in 2019: “he just wasn’t there.” Geezer Butler called his opening brief for 13 ridiculous, and Graham Nash described sessions with Crosby, Stills and Nash as irritable. Rubin sells judgment, not labour, and when the judgment does not land, artists feel the absence first.

The past decade turned that judgment into a public persona. He sat opposite Paul McCartney in McCartney 3, 2, 1; his book The Creative Act: A Way of Being, published by Penguin Press in January 2023, reached the top of the New York Times list; his podcast Tetragrammaton began the same year; and in 2024 he founded the Festival of the Sun in Italy. In June he appeared in World Cup advertising for the prediction market Polymarket, a booking that fed the suspicion that “Rick Rubin” had become a brand as much as a producer.

The work of 2026 makes a stronger argument than the brand. In May, Capitol released Wild at Heart, ten Neil Diamond songs recorded with Rubin in 2007 and held back for almost two decades, closing the trilogy that began with 12 Songs and Home Before Dark. In July the Strokes released Reality Awaits, their second album with him, begun in Guanacaste, Costa Rica, and finished at his Malibu studio, Shangri-La; it reached number 13 on the Billboard 200 and number eight in the United Kingdom. On September 18 HBO premiered JAŸ-Z in 8, his first extended work as a director since the Run-DMC film Tougher Than Leather in 1988: two men, a table and two speakers in the Palais Brongniart in Paris, shot in black and white by Bradford Young, working through Jay-Z’s catalogue song by song. The Hollywood Reporter found it impressive and exasperating in equal measure, and Charlamagne Tha God complained that Rubin’s questions drew out too little. Rubin’s reply, given across a long conversation with Steven Bartlett on The Diary of a CEO, was a story about “99 Problems”: Jay-Z mumbling at the back of the room for half an hour, then delivering the verse from memory, nothing written down.

Away from the studio he keeps a wide margin of privacy. He lives in Malibu and part of the year in Tuscany with his wife, Mourielle Hurtado Herrera, and their son, born in 2017. He goes barefoot whenever he can and remains a devoted wrestling fan who once financed Jim Cornette’s Smoky Mountain Wrestling.

On November 14, at the Peacock Theater in Los Angeles, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will give him its Musical Excellence Award, in a class of studio figures that includes Arif Mardin and Jimmy Miller. The honour recognises records, not aphorisms. Whether his next decade adds more of the first or the second is the open question of his career.

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